{"id":1735,"date":"2008-07-30T19:15:00","date_gmt":"2008-07-30T19:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/elizaphanian.com\/?p=1735"},"modified":"2019-11-22T16:54:55","modified_gmt":"2019-11-22T16:54:55","slug":"my-correspondence-with-j-mark-brewer-updated","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/elizaphanian.com\/?p=1735","title":{"rendered":"My correspondence with J Mark Brewer (updated)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I am publishing this because I believe it is in the public interest for this information to be widely known.<\/p>\n<p><span>On 25th July I received the following e-mail:<\/span><\/p>\n<div>\n<p align=\"center\"><b><u><span>CONFIDENTIAL:<\/span><\/u><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><b><u><span>NOT TO BE  REDISTRIBUTED TO ANY PERSON<\/span><\/u><\/b><\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><b><u><span>OR PUBLICLY  POSTED<\/span><\/u><\/b><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Reverend  Norton:<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I have visited your  web page<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.blogger.com\/post-edit.g?blogID=13284334&#038;postID=6217422707952476370#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\"><span><span><span>[1]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a>  which you brazenly have set up to carry on for the \u201ccartoon church\u201d blog site.   As such, you appear to be dedicated to the destruction of my personal reputation  and that of Saint Stephen the Great\/Saint Stephen the Great Charitable Trust.  I  am absolutely appalled and devastated that a member of the clergy of the Church  of England would engage in such inappropriate and defamatory behavior, by what  <i><u>you<\/u><\/i> have written as well as by what you have posted and by  encouraging others to do the same.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I am dumfounded that  any Christian, especially a clergyman, honestly believes that this is consistent  with his faith.  You would know better than I, a layman, how many places  defamation is spoken against in the Holy Bible.<a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.blogger.com\/post-edit.g?blogID=13284334&#038;postID=6217422707952476370#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\"><span><span><span>[2]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Re-publishing the  material from \u201ccartoon church\u201d has nothing to do with what you call \u201cfree  speech.\u201d  Instead,  you are invading my privacy by putting my name on your  webpage, and you are defaming me.  You are also interfering with the Charitable  Trust\u2019s efforts to salvage what remains of the <i><u>charitable<\/u><\/i> business  of the <i><u>Christian<\/u><\/i> bookshops with scorn.  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Your libel of me and  your invasion of my privacy have deeply hurt me.  Because of your position as a  clergyman, the pain of the words on your web page is greater.  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>This is not right  and you have gone too far.  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Your statements are  false and I categorically deny them \u2013 both for me and SSG\/SSGCT.  Many of them  are defamatory per se (e.g., \u201c. . . <\/span><i><span lang=\"EN\">incompetence<\/span><\/i><span lang=\"EN\"> and <i>injustice<\/i> of  the people who have taken over the SPCK chain.\u201d<\/span><span>)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>I reiterate:  am a  private individual and I value my privacy.  I am not a public figure and you  have no right to drag my name through the mire.   I do not consent and object to  you invading my personal privacy by maintaining web pages about me, SSG, SSGCT,  ENC Management, my brother, my wife, or my family.  I do not consent to you  posting blogs or enabling and encouraging others to blog us on the internet.  I  do not consent to you defaming me to any other party or person by \u201csharing\u201d your  false allegations.  At this point, even were you to remove my name from your web  page, my personal identity would still be clear to a majority of  readers.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><b><i><u><span>Legal  Demands<\/span><\/u><\/i><\/b><\/p>\n<\/p>\n<p><span>1.       I hereby  demand that you cease and desist from doing any of these things any more.  I  specifically demand that you deactivate your webpages, websites and\/or blogsites  which mention me, my brother, my family, SSG and\/or SSGCT IMMEDIATELY.  I also  demand that you not post this email, paraphrase it or refer to it in any  way.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>2.       I hereby  demand that you issue to me a retraction and apology on your webpage stating  substantially the following:  <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><i><span>I have removed from  my website all of the material about Mr. Mark Brewer and the Saint Stephen the  Great Charitable Trust as I have determined that it unfairly violated the  personal privacy of Mr. Brewer and because it was defamatory.  I acknowledge  that I did not have any factual basis for any of these defamatory statements and  that this is the reason for this retraction and apology.  <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span>I sincerely  apologize to Mr. Brewer for the hurt I have caused to him, his family and to  Saint Stephen the Great.  I urge my readers to refrain from any public postings  on the internet about Mr. Brewer in respect of his privacy.  <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span> <\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span>I also request and  urge my readers to refrain from writing or saying anything about him, his family  or Saint Stephen the Great which is or reasonably could be interpreted as false  or defamatory.<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>3.       I hereby  demand that you contact all persons with whom you have communicated about me or  the charity, sending them the above apology with a blind-copy to myself so that  I know you have complied.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>If you do meet the  terms and conditions set forth above and if you fail to remove the defamatory  material from your website by <u>noon GMT July 25, 2008<\/u>, I will seek an  injunction against you and those with whom you have collaborated in your  activities.  I also will take legal action against you for damages for libel.   In that event, I will also subpoena all records relating to the persons whom you  have allowed to post defamatory material on your website in order to add them as  defendants.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>Please acknowledge  your receipt of this correspondence and your intent to comply with this demand  by reply email.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>J. Mark  Brewer<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div><\/p>\n<hr align=\"left\" size=\"1\" width=\"33%\">\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.blogger.com\/post-edit.g?blogID=13284334&#038;postID=6217422707952476370#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\"><span><span><span>[1]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a>  <span><a href=\"http:\/\/elizaphanian.blogspot.com\/2008\/07\/we-are-all-dave-walkers-now.html\">http:\/\/elizaphanian.blogspot.com\/2008\/07\/we-are-all-dave-walkers-now.html<\/a><\/span>  <\/p>\n<\/div>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www2.blogger.com\/post-edit.g?blogID=13284334&#038;postID=6217422707952476370#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\"><span><span><span>[2]<\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a>  <span>Exodus 20:16 \u2013 the Ninth  Commandment; Psalm 101:5 \u2013 \u201c<\/span><span>Whoso  privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look  and a proud heart will not I suffer.\u201d Jesus also preached against slander; e.g.,  Saint Mark 7:22.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>I replied firstly in this manner:<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span>Dear J Mark Brewer,<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span> <\/span><\/p>\n<div><span><br \/>I acknowledge receipt of this e-mail. I shall take legal advice and  make a substantive response within seven days.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span> <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span> <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span>Sam Norton<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span>To which I received the response:<\/span><\/p>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span>Sir<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span>Thank you for your acknowledgment.  <\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span>Seven days is too long for me to continue to be  the victim of this outrage.  You could at least have the Christian decency to  take down the offending material pending your &#8216;legal advice.&#8217;  Will you do that  or do you require that legal action force you to?<\/span><\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\"><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div><span><strong>J. Mark  Brewer<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<div>\n<div><span><\/span><\/div>\n<p><span>Houston,  Texas 77056<\/span><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p><span>I have this evening replied further:<\/span><\/p>\n<div><span>Dear J Mark Brewer,<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>Following our earlier correspondence this is now my  substantive reply to your original e-mail of 25th July 2008.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>I believe that my blog contains only material which  is either true or &#8220;fair comment&#8221; upon truthful matters.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>If there are particular aspects of the material  published on my blog which you believe to be neither true nor fair comment I am  prepared to look again at specific items. <\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>Please be aware that I consider the making public  of this correspondence to be in the public interest, and that I shall share, via  my blog and other media, both your original &#8220;cease and desist&#8221; request, and any  subsequent correspondence.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>I would assure you that I have no personal malice  towards you in this regard. My concern is that an innocent man (Mr David Walker)  has been victimised by your actions. Should you be willing at any point in the  future to make a public apology to him, leading to him reinstating his blogposts  concerning SPCK, then I shall certainly cease and desist any further writings on  this affair.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>You do, of course, have recourse to the secular  courts of the United Kingdom if you wish to take this further in that manner.  Should you wish to do so, I shall be pleased to explain my position in open  court.<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>Yours sincerely,<\/span><\/div>\n<div><span><\/span> <\/div>\n<div><span>Sam Norton<\/span><\/div>\n<p><span>I have now received this reply to my above e-mail:<\/span><\/p>\n<p>RE: your cease and desist request to me<\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>Sir<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>Neither<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>English<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> nor American law permits you to engage in what you term &#8220;fair  comment&#8221; with respect to a private company, nor with respect to a  private<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>individual<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> &#8211;  namely, me. <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>Obviously<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> the law  does not allow one to<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>cloak<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>his<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>conduct with  such sophist<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>ry<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>and then go  about defaming<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>someone. <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>Your unreasonableness in the face  of my request that you stop defaming me is appalling. <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>Your persistence in doing so without even seeking  to know the truth, by talking to me for example, proves that you are in fact  acting out of<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>complete<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>malice.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>Libel with  m<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>alice<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>,<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>a<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>malignancy<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>of  heart<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>,<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>is intolerable in civilized societies.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>Mr. Walker is in no way a victim  of anything done or not done, said or not said by me.  I have no idea what you  are on about<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> in saying such a  thing<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span> I cannot fathom your judgmental presumptiveness  in telling<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><i><u> <span>me<\/span><\/u><\/i><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> to  apologize to<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><i><u> <span>him<\/span><\/u><\/i><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>I reiterate my demand that you  stop your defamatory blogging and invasion of my privacy.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>  If you do not, I will seek redress in the courts  of the<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>country<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>where I  live &#8211; the United States<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>  A<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>s y<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>ou<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>r solicitor will have told you, you<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> are subject to jurisdiction<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>here as you knowingly libeled me on the worldwide  web,<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>you<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>know me to be a resident of the  USA<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> and you know and intend to  injure me where<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>I<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> live in the  USA<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>. <\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>You<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>r solicitor also will<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span><\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>have told you<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>that you are<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>subject to service of process<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> for a<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span> suit in  the United States<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"> <span>under the  Hague Convention<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>.  You will  then have to answer for your conduct in the venue where you intentionally caused  me harm.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>  I hope you  understand this.<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span lang=\"en-us\"><span>Mark Brewer<\/span><\/span><span lang=\"en-us\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am publishing this because I believe it is in the public interest for this information to be widely known. 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