{"id":5881,"date":"2017-03-27T20:08:43","date_gmt":"2017-03-27T19:08:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/elizaphanian.com\/?p=5881"},"modified":"2019-11-22T16:27:39","modified_gmt":"2019-11-22T16:27:39","slug":"do-the-five-guiding-principles-commit-the-church-of-england-to-lay-presidency","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/elizaphanian.com\/?p=5881","title":{"rendered":"Do the five guiding principles commit the Church of England to lay presidency?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about Philip North and the situation in Sheffield. One thought in particular is simply this: if the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofengland.org\/about-us\/structure\/general-synod\/about-general-synod\/house-of-bishops\/declaration-on-the-ministry-of-bishops-and-priests.aspx\" target=\"_blank\">five guiding principles<\/a> (5GP) are accepted, then the Church of England has abandoned the theology that makes objecting to lay presidency coherent. In other words, if we accept the 5GP, then the Church of England will end up accepting lay presidency. I think that this is a facet of the discussion that has been missed, so I shall try and spell out what my thinking is.<\/p>\n<p>There are two grounds to the theology that cannot recognise women bishops as legitimate. The first rests upon the authority of Scripture, viz all the language about headship and the need for teaching in church, for example, to be male. My concern here is not with this first ground.<\/p>\n<p>The second ground, however, rests upon the notion of apostolic succession, and the sense that, in order to properly exercise a priestly authority, that authority needs to have been granted by a church authority which is itself properly constituted and derivative from the apostles themselves. The Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches are generally recognised to have such authority; the Church of England claims a similar authority for itself (hence the third principle states that the CofE &#8220;continues to share the historic episcopate with other Churches&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>This language of historic episcopacy carries with it a particular understanding of what it means to carry out the &#8216;cure of souls&#8217;, and the relationship between an individual priest and the bishop under whose <em>episcope <\/em>that priest serves. It is, at heart, a shared ministry; that is, the link between the priest in a diocese and the bishop of that diocese is not simply an administrative matter. Crucially, it is this link between the priest and the bishop that establishes the legitimacy of the priest presiding at Holy Communion.<\/p>\n<p>Now the 5GP are intended to bridge a theological gulf between those who can accept women as bishops and those who cannot. This may be of the Holy Spirit; disunity is a sin after all. However, I do believe that we need to fully understand what it is that we are committing ourselves to in order to achieve such unity.<\/p>\n<p>Martyn Percy did highlight this problem in the questions he raised for Philip North. I believe that the issue is more far-reaching. In order to ensure unity between those with different views on the question of women bishops the 5GP are teaching in practice that the classic Anglican (Anglo-Catholic) understanding of holy orders is not a first-order question. That is, it is saying that it is perfectly possible to be a Diocesan Bishop whilst at the same time believing that a proportion of those clergy over whom that Bishop exercises oversight are not true priests.<\/p>\n<p>From a Protestant point of view this is a simple pragmatic compromise. From an Anglo-Catholic point of view, the most essential element is now lost: the link with a wider church is now sundered.<\/p>\n<p>Once this has been accepted and established &#8211; what possible bar is there against lay presidency? (Which is, of course, already practiced in parts of the Anglican Communion.) If there is no longer any necessity for an apostolic link in those who are to work as priests in a Diocese, why not open up presidency at the Eucharist to all? Clearly the apostolic link is no longer of the <em>esse <\/em>of the church, if it can be laid aside in this way. (I have to say, I&#8217;m rather astonished that the leaders of the Society have gone along with the 5GP. It may well be that there are aspects to this that I do not see, or there is information that I am unaware of.)<\/p>\n<p>The 5GP may, as I say, be of the Holy Spirit. It may well be that the Anglo-Catholic emphasis, shared with the Orthodox and the Roman Catholic churches, is simply no longer capable of bearing divine grace in our present context and milieu. Alternatively, it may be that it is the Church of England itself which fits that description.<\/p>\n<p>I just think that the church needs to be aware of what it is signing up to in the 5GP; a little more theological leadership and a little less management.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about Philip North and the situation in Sheffield. 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