{"id":801,"date":"2010-02-27T18:29:00","date_gmt":"2010-02-27T18:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/elizaphanian.com\/?p=801"},"modified":"2010-02-27T18:29:00","modified_gmt":"2010-02-27T18:29:00","slug":"does-ordination-make-a-difference","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/elizaphanian.com\/?p=801","title":{"rendered":"Does ordination make a difference?"},"content":{"rendered":"

An issue being mentioned here<\/a>, here <\/a>and here <\/a>(for starters).<\/p>\n

I would say that ordination is primarily a separation sideways – baptism is the separation vertically.<\/p>\n

I would also say that there is such a thing as the grace of holy orders. Have I been enabled to be a different person since being ordained? Surely.<\/p>\n

Ordination does not elevate a person in any sort of moral or ‘righteousness’ sense; there is no spiritual superiority conferred. Yet there is an authority conferred. <\/p>\n

Within the body of Christ, these are given responsibility for exercising judgement, for speaking the yay and the nay<\/a>.<\/p>\n

This is not trivial.<\/p>\n

I sometimes think that those most concerned to deny any reality to ordination – whether called ‘ontological’ or not – are like Oedipus, stabbing out his eyes, because he cannot bear to see.<\/p>\n

I wouldn’t want to push that image too far \ud83d\ude42<\/span><\/p>\n

My views on the related issue of lay presidency can be found here<\/a>.
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